55 monks - Are they worth it? - Guild Wars Forums

kc99 · Feb 19, 2006, 12:51 PM // 12:51

I Have just recently ascended my monk which i created for the sole purpose of becoming an infamous 55!

I Have saved up enough gold to go and buy the runes and have all the other equipment i need but now the question i need asked is, should i bother?
I already have a warrior which i use for farming griffons and stuff to fund my main char (my ranger) and i kinda created this monk on a whim.

I dont want to play the healer as i have tried it and i'm not good at it and can't get into it. So really what am asking is should i keep my gold and do other stuff and delete this char?
Or keep him and make the 55 , is there something i will miss out on if i don't?

I think the only thing that would annoy me is the time spent on him and capping the elites etc if i were to delete him.

So the final question is- ARE THEY WORTH IT?

darkMishkin · Feb 19, 2006, 12:58 PM // 12:58

Save your gold for fun things in chapter 2.

LiQuId StEeL · Feb 19, 2006, 01:37 PM // 13:37

I agree. I deleted my farming stuff months ago, and haven't missed it a bit. Not wort the time, and with the promised skill balance looming, who knows how nerfed these moronic monks will be.

Retribution X · Feb 19, 2006, 01:39 PM // 13:39

sure! i'm selling my stuff! buy mine!

Wammo's are way cheaper. monks are harder to run.

xxSilhouette · Feb 19, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51

I created a 55 monk, which i havent deleted - i have two sets of armor, one for 55ing and one for protecting/actually playing the game - anyhow - they have nerfed the farming in the main place that monks farm, outside the desert - but i make an average of 1-2k still from each farming run and have gotten a few gold drops. I used to farm SF with henchies and would speand 2 or 3 hours at a time making 1k and getting one green drop if i was lucky - so i do make more money faster from the 55 monk.

A lot of people stoped using this build though, and if you really don't like being a healer i would suggest deleted and saving your money as well - beacuse unless you get a straight run to the desert you are going to have to be in groups and heal or protect just to get to the desert.

Numa Pompilius · Feb 19, 2006, 02:05 PM // 14:05

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Originally Posted by kc99

So the final question is- ARE THEY WORTH IT?

Hard to say. I made myself a 55 monk about a month ago, to test it out, and first I was deathly impressed (soloing 8 hydras!!!1one!eleven Whoo!), but I soon realized it's really a very limited build. It tanks sustained physical damage a little bit worse and spike damage and degen considerably better than an axe W/Mo, but kills slower (using Shield of Judgement), so ideally you want a second player with you to help with the killing (e.g. a necromancer arcane-echoing Spiteful Spirit).

Yeah, they farm minotaurs and griffons and trolls well, although not as well as that axe W/Mo, and are better against giants and UW monsters like Aatxe than the W/Mo, but if you ever come across an enemy with shatter enchant, you're toast.

Plus if you're like me you'll occasionally tend to forget casting Protective Spirit and then you die. Really, really, quickly.

As for me, I had the money and I was curious to see how 55 monks handled, so for me it was worth it. Your Mileage May Vary.

Vhayr · Feb 19, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14

I made my Monk primarily for 55ing, however I really got into actually being a Monk, if that makes sense. I still farm, and I bought a set of Fissure armour with the money I made from 55ing, so for me it payed off.

AxeMe · Feb 19, 2006, 02:38 PM // 14:38

Mostly it depends on whether or not you enjoy farming with a 55 monk. I do so I continue (the people who say that many of the old farming runs have been nerfed are correct). But, when I need gold in the game, the 55 does a pretty fair job. I use a w/mo to farm griffons (it's faster than my 55 on that run and also has less problems with enchantment stripping there). But - for instance - with the hydras, the 55 monk does a really fast job of clearing things out.

But the 55 monk is no longer so powerful that it's a necessity. So it becomes a matter of preference. I think it's worth a slot for my style play.

kc99 · Feb 19, 2006, 02:52 PM // 14:52

Thanks for the input so far guys.

I guess what it boils down to also is what can the 55 do my warrior can't?
Sure he can tackle the UW solo with a lot of practise but is it really THAT much more profitable than say farming from augury?

Retribution X · Feb 19, 2006, 02:55 PM // 14:55

unless you can spend hours to pay for the runes and -50 icon, no.

KANE OG · Feb 19, 2006, 02:57 PM // 14:57

Just got my Monk Ascended last week, then henched it thru to the Fire Islands. What a blast! I seem to have a great build for Smite and Heal (Mo/Me), but the main reason I created the character was for a 55. I think I'll just stick with my Warrior for farming, the investment in new tats and runes isn't worth it to me right now. Somewhere along the line I may pick up the necessary things, but for now I'm having too much fun. I wouldn't recommend deleting your character tho, we're supposed to get at least one more slot, and I'd say give the Monk another go at Smite/Prot/Heal.

darkMishkin · Feb 19, 2006, 03:46 PM // 15:46

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Originally Posted by kc99

UW solo ... really THAT much more profitable than say farming from augury?

Ecto sells with a lot less effort than gold unidentified swords.

well, it used to...

Hudson Teh Angered · Feb 19, 2006, 06:01 PM // 18:01

Well i think there totally worth it. If it wasnt for my 55hp I wouldnt have over 4 sets of 15k armour, Amazing items greens and golds alike. Ok its been nerfed alot but even when we dont have favour or i give up, i just use it for bonding or healing. Monks are just easy going class tbh if you really cba to concentrate that much go bonder, if you can go 55hp. Monks are so sought after its great you never have to wait long to get a team

Yakumo · Feb 20, 2006, 01:17 PM // 13:17

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Plus if you're like me you'll occasionally tend to forget casting Protective Spirit and then you die. Really, really, quickly.

LOL... That's what I tend to do as well.

Personally, I should have saved the money and just use my warrior for farming. I find the 55 monk less forgiving if I forget or get interrupted while casting Healing Breeze or Protective Spirit. If a devourer joins the fun, then I'm pretty much a goner!

With my warrior (using an all-warrior build), it's more relaxing and less hectic. It's not quick, but if I forget or get interrupted, it's no big deal. I can take on 6 minotaurs/griffons, and if 2 devourers gatecrash the party, it doesn't worry me the slightest.

Maybe my monk will server me well in other areas.

m30wc0w · Feb 21, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44

I don't like 55 monks. They suck at dealing damage and monk armour isn't my taste. I prefer the 55 Mesmer much more as they can deal damage a lot better.

tuna-fish_sushi · Feb 21, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08

55monks rock so easy to use they are versatile
easy to do missions because people are always
looking for healer monks and even at low levels
it is easy to power level yourself. Spent about
10k on runes a while back and have easily made
over 500k gold.

ap47 · Feb 21, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08

I got a 55 Mo/N and I dont regret making it. However, I also use him for regular monking and if it's only a matter of making money I don't think it's worth it. What I like about it is that you can solo farm some otherwise very difficult areas like UW and Dreadnought's. Haven't done much duo farming in UW though, so I don't really know how profitable that may be in the long run.

Rayne Nightfyre · Feb 21, 2006, 04:27 AM // 04:27

I honestly suggest saving your money for Factions. In the long run, a 55 build does pay off. But you have to do quite a bit of farming to really profit from it. The usual profit from 55 Monks' runs are from selling common item drops to the merchant, building up stacks of Griffon Wings and Minotaur Horns, then selling those. So on average, a typical Griffon run yields about 800g-1k, and takes roughly 3-5 minutes. The runs I would do on my monk take about 10-12 minutes, but would yield 2.5-3k. These runs get very tedious, and really aren't fun to me anymore. Also, another thing to consider, once Factions comes out the focus will not be so much on farming as it will be playing the storyline once again. So again, I suggest saving your gold and build it up further for Factions. (Just as a tip, get teams for Tombs or SF, you can make considerable profit from the green items there).

sno · Feb 21, 2006, 04:50 AM // 04:50

I completely disagree with most of these posts. 2man farming UW is not only relatively easy, but it makes money VASTLY faster than almost any other farming method (with the possible exception of low-man FoW farming.) With a fairly simple strategy (slow, taking it easy) you can do a smite run in 30 minutes or so, which will get an average of 1 ecto per person, plus ~1-2k in cash (merchant) and some rare items (which can be worth a lot.) With a polished build you can do the same run in ~15 minutes, which would be ~4 ectos per hour. In far less than a day you can make back all the money you spent creating the 55hp monk.

It's all in what you like though, I suppose.

apocalypse_xx · Feb 21, 2006, 04:58 AM // 04:58

55 Monks are worth every penny...they can effectively farm almost any mob in the game, many people under estimate their power. As far as Factions go, I see no reason why my 55 monk won't be solo ing most of that new world as well. Acquiring large sums of gold in this game require farming, so the debate is not whether 55 monking is boring or not...farming can be very boring, but since you inquired I am assuming you are aware of that already. To be perfectly frank, it is because of the versatility of my 55 monk that I DO NOT get bored with farming...just use your imagination and have fun with him/her...BTW I have 2 sets of armor and can play very well the roles of protection and or healer which I also very much enjoy, and most times I still use a sup rune or two in those roles....so, worth it?? YOU BET!!!

Feb 19, 2006, 12:51 PM // 12:51	#1
kc99 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Scotland Guild: Renaissance Desire Profession: R/Mo	55 monks - Are they worth it? I Have just recently ascended my monk which i created for the sole purpose of becoming an infamous 55! I Have saved up enough gold to go and buy the runes and have all the other equipment i need but now the question i need asked is, should i bother? I already have a warrior which i use for farming griffons and stuff to fund my main char (my ranger) and i kinda created this monk on a whim. I dont want to play the healer as i have tried it and i'm not good at it and can't get into it. So really what am asking is should i keep my gold and do other stuff and delete this char? Or keep him and make the 55 , is there something i will miss out on if i don't? I think the only thing that would annoy me is the time spent on him and capping the elites etc if i were to delete him. So the final question is- ARE THEY WORTH IT?

Feb 19, 2006, 12:58 PM // 12:58	#2
darkMishkin Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: Mo/	Save your gold for fun things in chapter 2.

Feb 19, 2006, 01:37 PM // 13:37	#3
LiQuId StEeL Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: /u/liquidsteel30 Guild: Ego Trip From Rank [ZERO] Profession: W/Mo	I agree. I deleted my farming stuff months ago, and haven't missed it a bit. Not wort the time, and with the promised skill balance looming, who knows how nerfed these moronic monks will be.

Feb 19, 2006, 01:39 PM // 13:39	#4
Retribution X Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Check behind you again. Profession: N/	sure! i'm selling my stuff! buy mine! Wammo's are way cheaper. monks are harder to run.

Feb 19, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51	#5
xxSilhouette Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lost in the sands of time... Guild: Blood Of Orr [BoO] Profession: R/Rt	I created a 55 monk, which i havent deleted - i have two sets of armor, one for 55ing and one for protecting/actually playing the game - anyhow - they have nerfed the farming in the main place that monks farm, outside the desert - but i make an average of 1-2k still from each farming run and have gotten a few gold drops. I used to farm SF with henchies and would speand 2 or 3 hours at a time making 1k and getting one green drop if i was lucky - so i do make more money faster from the 55 monk. A lot of people stoped using this build though, and if you really don't like being a healer i would suggest deleted and saving your money as well - beacuse unless you get a straight run to the desert you are going to have to be in groups and heal or protect just to get to the desert.

Feb 19, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14	#7
Vhayr Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Guild: Malice Nights [MN] Profession: A/Me	I made my Monk primarily for 55ing, however I really got into actually being a Monk, if that makes sense. I still farm, and I bought a set of Fissure armour with the money I made from 55ing, so for me it payed off.

Feb 19, 2006, 02:38 PM // 14:38	#8
AxeMe Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta Guild: HEX Profession: W/	Mostly it depends on whether or not you enjoy farming with a 55 monk. I do so I continue (the people who say that many of the old farming runs have been nerfed are correct). But, when I need gold in the game, the 55 does a pretty fair job. I use a w/mo to farm griffons (it's faster than my 55 on that run and also has less problems with enchantment stripping there). But - for instance - with the hydras, the 55 monk does a really fast job of clearing things out. But the 55 monk is no longer so powerful that it's a necessity. So it becomes a matter of preference. I think it's worth a slot for my style play.

Feb 19, 2006, 02:52 PM // 14:52	#9
kc99 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Scotland Guild: Renaissance Desire Profession: R/Mo	Thanks for the input so far guys. I guess what it boils down to also is what can the 55 do my warrior can't? Sure he can tackle the UW solo with a lot of practise but is it really THAT much more profitable than say farming from augury?

Feb 19, 2006, 02:55 PM // 14:55	#10
Retribution X Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Check behind you again. Profession: N/	unless you can spend hours to pay for the runes and -50 icon, no.

Feb 19, 2006, 02:57 PM // 14:57	#11
KANE OG Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: Ogmios Graybeards Profession: W/	Just got my Monk Ascended last week, then henched it thru to the Fire Islands. What a blast! I seem to have a great build for Smite and Heal (Mo/Me), but the main reason I created the character was for a 55. I think I'll just stick with my Warrior for farming, the investment in new tats and runes isn't worth it to me right now. Somewhere along the line I may pick up the necessary things, but for now I'm having too much fun. I wouldn't recommend deleting your character tho, we're supposed to get at least one more slot, and I'd say give the Monk another go at Smite/Prot/Heal.

Feb 19, 2006, 06:01 PM // 18:01	#13
Hudson Teh Angered Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK Guild: Bananer I Pyjamas Profession: W/Mo	Well i think there totally worth it. If it wasnt for my 55hp I wouldnt have over 4 sets of 15k armour, Amazing items greens and golds alike. Ok its been nerfed alot but even when we dont have favour or i give up, i just use it for bonding or healing. Monks are just easy going class tbh if you really cba to concentrate that much go bonder, if you can go 55hp. Monks are so sought after its great you never have to wait long to get a team

Feb 21, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44	#15
m30wc0w Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: FERRET LAND Profession: R/Me	I don't like 55 monks. They suck at dealing damage and monk armour isn't my taste. I prefer the 55 Mesmer much more as they can deal damage a lot better.

Feb 21, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08	#16
tuna-fish_sushi Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Profession: E/A	55monks rock so easy to use they are versatile easy to do missions because people are always looking for healer monks and even at low levels it is easy to power level yourself. Spent about 10k on runes a while back and have easily made over 500k gold.

Feb 21, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08	#17
ap47 Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sweden Profession: Mo/	I got a 55 Mo/N and I dont regret making it. However, I also use him for regular monking and if it's only a matter of making money I don't think it's worth it. What I like about it is that you can solo farm some otherwise very difficult areas like UW and Dreadnought's. Haven't done much duo farming in UW though, so I don't really know how profitable that may be in the long run.

Feb 21, 2006, 04:27 AM // 04:27	#18
Rayne Nightfyre Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Acolytes of Lyssa [AL] Profession: Me/A	I honestly suggest saving your money for Factions. In the long run, a 55 build does pay off. But you have to do quite a bit of farming to really profit from it. The usual profit from 55 Monks' runs are from selling common item drops to the merchant, building up stacks of Griffon Wings and Minotaur Horns, then selling those. So on average, a typical Griffon run yields about 800g-1k, and takes roughly 3-5 minutes. The runs I would do on my monk take about 10-12 minutes, but would yield 2.5-3k. These runs get very tedious, and really aren't fun to me anymore. Also, another thing to consider, once Factions comes out the focus will not be so much on farming as it will be playing the storyline once again. So again, I suggest saving your gold and build it up further for Factions. (Just as a tip, get teams for Tombs or SF, you can make considerable profit from the green items there).

Feb 21, 2006, 04:50 AM // 04:50	#19
sno Look into the Eye. Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Detroit, Mi Guild: Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh] Profession: Mo/	I completely disagree with most of these posts. 2man farming UW is not only relatively easy, but it makes money VASTLY faster than almost any other farming method (with the possible exception of low-man FoW farming.) With a fairly simple strategy (slow, taking it easy) you can do a smite run in 30 minutes or so, which will get an average of 1 ecto per person, plus ~1-2k in cash (merchant) and some rare items (which can be worth a lot.) With a polished build you can do the same run in ~15 minutes, which would be ~4 ectos per hour. In far less than a day you can make back all the money you spent creating the 55hp monk. It's all in what you like though, I suppose.

Feb 21, 2006, 04:58 AM // 04:58	#20
apocalypse_xx Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	55 Monks are worth every penny...they can effectively farm almost any mob in the game, many people under estimate their power. As far as Factions go, I see no reason why my 55 monk won't be solo ing most of that new world as well. Acquiring large sums of gold in this game require farming, so the debate is not whether 55 monking is boring or not...farming can be very boring, but since you inquired I am assuming you are aware of that already. To be perfectly frank, it is because of the versatility of my 55 monk that I DO NOT get bored with farming...just use your imagination and have fun with him/her...BTW I have 2 sets of armor and can play very well the roles of protection and or healer which I also very much enjoy, and most times I still use a sup rune or two in those roles....so, worth it?? YOU BET!!!